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HETALIA CHIPS: TASTES LIKE IMPERIALISM

Please don't kill me.

Since Mr. Cold War is hoping to get his chip out and Hetalia is absolute crack, I wanted to put up what I hope to do for an event/powers so the cast can have an input if they don't agree. I'm going partly by previous agreements (I can't find the original plotting post but this was the basic outcome) but I fully realize that much of the cast is newer and have more to say.

This is all just to maintain some basic level of consistency (BUT AGAIN. HETALIA. ANYTHING GOES.) But anyway.

POWERS:

Alright, we all know Hetalia is basically "WHATEVER IS FUNNY IS POSSIBLE", but there's so much fanon/actual "powers" that can be concluded from the comics (America's super strength, England's magic, Russia's resistance to dark magic, etc). These following points were discussed in the past and seem to be consistent within the cast, but just to be sure:

✗ Immortality: ...to a degree. I've seen several others say that, in Hetalia-land, they can't die for realsies unless their culture is destroyed, land given away, etc. I would assume that some of the same basic things apply to Discedo.

However--and this is where your opinions count!--since none of the countries are connected to their people or land in Disc, I would imagine they'd be much harder to kill, but not impossible. Or, at the least, if a country were to "die", they'd be revived by the scientists before they'd naturally revive (again, this is all based on personal interpretations). THOUGHTS ARE APPRECIATED.

✗ Fast Healing: If Russia can jump out of a plane and be back on the field in no time, England can recover from (seemingly) life-threatening wounds in three days, and America can break his leg and recover quickly, I think it's safe to say that these guys get over externally-inflicted wounds quickly. What I mean by "externally-inflicted" are wounds like getting shot, stabbed, burned, etc. as opposed to wounds they'd receive due to traumatic historical events or natural disasters, like China's scar from the Sino-Japanese war.

✗ RANDOM BULLSHIT: America breaks the laws of time and space to use Google, Prussia breaks the 4th wall, and Russia eats directional arrows. I have no point to make other than it will get worse than puking bears. WELCOME TO HETALIA. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR RATIONALITY AT THE DOOR.

If there's anything else you guys want to add/contribute, let me know!

CHIP EVENT(ISH):
ALSO CALLED: THIS IS REALLY JUST AN EXCUSE TO HAVE FUN WITH HISTORY
Note: I talked to a mod about this and I think as long as I clear it with you guys, it'll be okay.

This won't affect anyone directly but America, though again, in case anyone is hellbent on something silly like consistency, I'll put this here in case anyone wants to do something similar if their character gets their chip out/if you have any other ideas.

SHORT VERSION: America will be re-experiencing history, both physically and mentally, in hyper speed throughout the "sick" week after chip removal as his body becomes accustomed to being a country again.

MEDIUM VERSION: I'm still totally in the planning process of this.

LONG VERSION: Once America has his chip removed, he'll start feeling lightheaded, extremely queasy, basic sick stuff. He'll still be in his typical 60s mindset by this point, complain, and lay down for a nap.

He's going to wake up slightly younger-looking with ~~better eyesight~~ jaundice. HELLO THERE YELLOW FEVER EPIDEMIC OF 1793. Or maybe I'll start at the end of the Revolutionary war I don't really know at this point.

Not that anyone cares but HERE ARE TIME PERIODS I'M HOPING TO HIT UP THROUGHOUT THE WEEK (or maybe a little longer since I doubt anyone wants me posting every day):
The War of 1812: /invades Canada's vital regions
American Civil War: the return of Sir Multi personality
American Imperialism: "AHHHH I LOVE THE SMELL OF SMALL PACIFIC ISLANDS IN THE MORNING"
World War I: so about them Devil Dogs
The Great Depression: according to O Brother Where Art Thou, people sing and reenact The Odyssey
World War II: oh hay Hetalia
The 1950s Red Scare: "YOU KNOW, JAIL ISN'T SO BAD. YOU SHOULD'VE SEEN SALEM. ~~ALSO HAVE YOU READ THE CRUCIBLE?~~"
*some is subject to change because DAMN IT I WANT TO DO MANIFEST DESTINY TOO.

America will be behaving and appearing as though he's from these time periods. By that I mean, for example with the Civil War, he'll be torn apart, his body will be wrecked to hell, and worse. He'll also talk as though he's both the Union and the Confederacy and see perceive other countries from the context of his time period. Rinse and repeat with every time period.

SO WHY AM I POSTING ALL THIS HERE? Because I want to know if you guys are okay if I do this. As Parron said, this doesn't have to be the definitive chip event for other countries; we can chalk it all up to willpower, difference in countries and their history, time spent in Discedo, etc. Or we can bullshit it. Once again: this is all depending if you guys want rigid consistency or don't care. I'd like to note that I'm starting after America's independence because colonialism would a) be too much to do and b) kill everyone with the cuteness of Babbymerica. If anyone wants to do something similar, go ahead and start from whatever time period you like/feel comfortable with/what have you.

I FEEL LIKE I HAD MORE TO SAY BUT I'M GOING TO LET YOU GUYS SPEAK NOW. INPUT PLZ.

And for the record, America won't be getting his chip out until after whatever mod event is upcoming. This is just to plan in the mean time.

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Well, Austria and Hungary got 'married', so I think in that situation, it counts. I guess it goes on a case by case basis. I consider the Sino-Russian alliance and the Anglo-Japanese alliance to be just specific friendships, too.

.....the second one I also view on a case by case, but that is because I am a horrible person. I think it depends on who or what is being taken over?

RUSSIA JUST REPELS DARK ENERGY FOREVER. Somehow it works.

Canada has called America, England, and France by their real names. I figure it's a 'family' thing.

Well, I guess that's another point. Alliances = friendships? Or yes? Or no? Or sometimes? Are there any specific past alliances - I'm not asking you specifically - that = something, and others that = nothing? ahhh fandom why so vagueeee.

And yes, this is true. I don't think invasions are ever PLEASANT, but. IDK. Yeah. Like in Denmark's case, I just can't imagine the Dano-Swedish wars as being anything other than Denmark and Sweden punching one another. A lot. A lot.

DENMARK'S SUPER POWER: HIS LIVER HAS YET TO FAIL.

Also I think Denmark has called Sweden and Finland by their first names when he was pissed off at them, but has never used them at any other point. Ahahaha.

I like to think of invasions as what it would feel like to have parasites running around under your skin eating you slowly from the inside out /pleasant imagery

Speaking of, occupations. Do the occupied nations live in the same house as the conqueror? I know Parron and Germany-mun were playing it that Denmark stayed in Copenhagen or wherever, but the definition of "house" and it's physical implications is... vague, sometimes. Like, would all of the Japanese Empire have stayed together during/prior to World War One? Or did Japan just make regular house visits? Same for the Soviet Union, I guess, and so on so forth.

The Soviet Union, at least in the anime, is a big house, which... kinda makes sense, given everyone pretty much grouped the Baltics/Belarus/Ukraine under the general title "Soviet Union." At least that's the impression that I get since places like Kiev was always seen as a part of the Soviet Union, not Ukraine.

I guess it depends on the situation and how you want to look at the "house" situation, really.

AHHH I really don't know. We know in canon that during the Kalmar Union, all the Nordics lived in Denmark's house. But I think I assumed that during WW2, Denmark stayed in Copenhagen, yeah. But at the same time, Denmark was mostly left alone due to special circumstances/model protectorate - he was allowed to keep his government, Prime Minister, and police until 1943, which is when I play him. So I can easily see it as Denmark being allowed to live on his own UNTIL then, and then being forced to hang out at Germany's house and mooch beer. But at the same time, during a relatively short-term war like WW2 (in comparison to some, I mean) - Denmark was occupied, but he wasn't made part of Germany; same with Poland and Holland and so on. Unlike say when Hungary became Royal Hungary/part of Turkey, or was then brought into the Holy Roman Empire.

/two cents

That also then leads to colonies! Do colonies live with their sovereign nations? What about home rule? Or is it just a visiting often kind of deal - I know that's the case with America and England, but I know Denmark and Iceland were playing it that Iceland lived with Denmark until he was given home rule (in... the late 19th century ffff). Which in retrospect might not be logical.

Austria moved in with Germany during the Anschluss thing as well, I guess it depends on the level of freedom the other country has? Colonies are often left to manage themselves for the most part, with the exception of taxes and just generally doing what the sovereign nation tells them to do (I think?). Distance might play a part as well, I guess.

I kind of like the idea of the Japanese Empire all staying together, mainly because Hong Kong would have made it his duty to make Japan's life a living hell, but I guess it depends.

But Austria was also like, "yeah, this works for me /mooches off Germany forever," so I can also see that as a "he just wanted to" sort of deal. And yeah, when you think about it, in the case of Denmark and Germany, they ARE neighbors and sort of share Schleswig-Holstein, so... the more I think about it, the more I like the idea that Denmark was allowed to stay home BECAUSE he was the Model Protectorate, but as also in Discedo, Germany has the right at any time to take away that privilege - which is what it definitely WOULD be.

And I think the colony thing is complicaaaaated the more I think about it. In the case of Iceland, Denmark took him in when he unified with Norway, so that's easy. But then again, I don't see him as taking home England as much as visiting him a lot - maybe because the vikings were so much LOL SEE YOU NEXT SUMMER /leaves. THEN AGAIN, they shared a king, so I guess they were probably both wherever he was. Hnnnnnnnnngh and then I could split either way with Denmark and Estonia, when Denmark controlled him...

It could just be however much the countries like each other? Or however much one of them is a pushover and can't kick the other out/escape. And maybe how much they rely on the sovereign nation, but that still doesn't quite make sense because you know that if they could have America and England would have been living together. We didn't see France with Germany, even after his surrender in canon, so he doesn't seem to have been the same as Austria at least. He probably had the same deal Denmark has? Or maybe everyone was just smart enough to know this was not going to be a happy household, with France, Austria, Prussia and Hungary all under the same roof.

Case by case basis? How self sufficient a nation is? I'm not sure if China and Hong Kong live together either, HK is pretty self sufficient in everything except military but he's technically Chinese soil so I don't know.

Yeahhhh I don't even know. I do think that geography MUST be a factor, because in the America and England example, yeaaahhh, that was a solid couple of weeks by ship. I don't even know.

And that's a good point. Iceland/Greenland/Faroes have never had a military/relied on Denmark to protect them, so that could be a viable reason for them to have lived with him at least until they had home rule - which is a sign of self sufficiency, really. And then they'd just have to keep in close contact. It might be the same with invasions, though, and depend on geography (England and HALF HIS COLONIES) and personality. Denmark is totally the type to want to keep his "family" close and call them his kids; others, probably not.

If America and Canada were too far, then Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong and etc would have probably lived alone too. /random

And going my geography, colonies/etc that were further away would have also had to be more self sufficient, even if their military was funded by their sovereign nation and so on. So that could be another reason for them to stay at their own place.

EDIT: wait I wasn't done with my train of thought. But yeah, back to occupations, countries that have to be forced to obey have higher military presence and so on and so live with the sovereign nation where as countries that play nice- like Denmark and sort of France (though there's the whole resistance movement and so on)- get more leeway and are allowed to stay in their homes.

Edited 2010-04-10 06:54 (UTC)

Yeah, probably. And I agree on the distance / self-sufficient thing. Denmark's little islands are much closer than some...

-- And yeah, Denmark didn't even have an official resistance movement until 1943. There were individuals, but nothing organized, because of that whole playing nice thing.

Where as Hong Kong had a resistance movement from the very beginning, I think- It was just the most pathetic resistance movement you ever saw. They lived in caves up in the mountain and only came down to do quick raids on the Japanese HQs and steal food. They were really annoying to the Japanese though, and they were rarely caught because HK is covered in forest and they knew the territory. Somehow I translate this into Hong Kong living with Japan and doing tiny, vaguely pointless, yet majorly annoying pranks on Japan. And probably the odd attack, that is doomed to fail before he even begins.

I tend to think, especially with World War II, it depends a lot. Because, yeah, lol, that would be like everyone and their mom. But there were different designations of different places. Denmark was a protectorate, but not all the territory that they stole was. Part of it was an ethnic thing, so they split it up in that respect. I think because Austria was not so much invaded as annexed/unioned, that it would make sense they would move in because for all intents and purposes he became part of the Reich, where as France was occupied, as the Military Administration in Belgium and North France. Denmark was special with the protectorate thing, plus as Parron mentioned the whole getting to keep the King and be besties to the north, etc.

So I suppose the whole occupation thing was more like stay at your place I have lots to take care of, but the union was like sure chill at mine.

If that makes any sense ever.

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