HETALIA CHIPS: TASTES LIKE IMPERIALISM

[starspangledhero]

Please don't kill me.

Since Mr. Cold War is hoping to get his chip out and Hetalia is absolute crack, I wanted to put up what I hope to do for an event/powers so the cast can have an input if they don't agree. I'm going partly by previous agreements (I can't find the original plotting post but this was the basic outcome) but I fully realize that much of the cast is newer and have more to say.

This is all just to maintain some basic level of consistency (BUT AGAIN. HETALIA. ANYTHING GOES.) But anyway.

POWERS:

Alright, we all know Hetalia is basically "WHATEVER IS FUNNY IS POSSIBLE", but there's so much fanon/actual "powers" that can be concluded from the comics (America's super strength, England's magic, Russia's resistance to dark magic, etc). These following points were discussed in the past and seem to be consistent within the cast, but just to be sure:

✗ Immortality: ...to a degree. I've seen several others say that, in Hetalia-land, they can't die for realsies unless their culture is destroyed, land given away, etc. I would assume that some of the same basic things apply to Discedo.

However--and this is where your opinions count!--since none of the countries are connected to their people or land in Disc, I would imagine they'd be much harder to kill, but not impossible. Or, at the least, if a country were to "die", they'd be revived by the scientists before they'd naturally revive (again, this is all based on personal interpretations). THOUGHTS ARE APPRECIATED.

✗ Fast Healing: If Russia can jump out of a plane and be back on the field in no time, England can recover from (seemingly) life-threatening wounds in three days, and America can break his leg and recover quickly, I think it's safe to say that these guys get over externally-inflicted wounds quickly. What I mean by "externally-inflicted" are wounds like getting shot, stabbed, burned, etc. as opposed to wounds they'd receive due to traumatic historical events or natural disasters, like China's scar from the Sino-Japanese war.

✗ RANDOM BULLSHIT: America breaks the laws of time and space to use Google, Prussia breaks the 4th wall, and Russia eats directional arrows. I have no point to make other than it will get worse than puking bears. WELCOME TO HETALIA. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR RATIONALITY AT THE DOOR.

If there's anything else you guys want to add/contribute, let me know!

CHIP EVENT(ISH):
ALSO CALLED: THIS IS REALLY JUST AN EXCUSE TO HAVE FUN WITH HISTORY
Note: I talked to a mod about this and I think as long as I clear it with you guys, it'll be okay.

This won't affect anyone directly but America, though again, in case anyone is hellbent on something silly like consistency, I'll put this here in case anyone wants to do something similar if their character gets their chip out/if you have any other ideas.

SHORT VERSION: America will be re-experiencing history, both physically and mentally, in hyper speed throughout the "sick" week after chip removal as his body becomes accustomed to being a country again.

MEDIUM VERSION: I'm still totally in the planning process of this.

LONG VERSION: Once America has his chip removed, he'll start feeling lightheaded, extremely queasy, basic sick stuff. He'll still be in his typical 60s mindset by this point, complain, and lay down for a nap.

He's going to wake up slightly younger-looking with better eyesight jaundice. HELLO THERE YELLOW FEVER EPIDEMIC OF 1793. Or maybe I'll start at the end of the Revolutionary war I don't really know at this point.

Not that anyone cares but HERE ARE TIME PERIODS I'M HOPING TO HIT UP THROUGHOUT THE WEEK (or maybe a little longer since I doubt anyone wants me posting every day):
The War of 1812: /invades Canada's vital regions
American Civil War: the return of Sir Multi personality
American Imperialism: "AHHHH I LOVE THE SMELL OF SMALL PACIFIC ISLANDS IN THE MORNING"
World War I: so about them Devil Dogs
The Great Depression: according to O Brother Where Art Thou, people sing and reenact The Odyssey
World War II: oh hay Hetalia
The 1950s Red Scare: "YOU KNOW, JAIL ISN'T SO BAD. YOU SHOULD'VE SEEN SALEM. ALSO HAVE YOU READ THE CRUCIBLE?"
*some is subject to change because DAMN IT I WANT TO DO MANIFEST DESTINY TOO.

America will be behaving and appearing as though he's from these time periods. By that I mean, for example with the Civil War, he'll be torn apart, his body will be wrecked to hell, and worse. He'll also talk as though he's both the Union and the Confederacy and see perceive other countries from the context of his time period. Rinse and repeat with every time period.

SO WHY AM I POSTING ALL THIS HERE? Because I want to know if you guys are okay if I do this. As Parron said, this doesn't have to be the definitive chip event for other countries; we can chalk it all up to willpower, difference in countries and their history, time spent in Discedo, etc. Or we can bullshit it. Once again: this is all depending if you guys want rigid consistency or don't care. I'd like to note that I'm starting after America's independence because colonialism would a) be too much to do and b) kill everyone with the cuteness of Babbymerica. If anyone wants to do something similar, go ahead and start from whatever time period you like/feel comfortable with/what have you.

I FEEL LIKE I HAD MORE TO SAY BUT I'M GOING TO LET YOU GUYS SPEAK NOW. INPUT PLZ.

And for the record, America won't be getting his chip out until after whatever mod event is upcoming. This is just to plan in the mean time.

Comments

I'LL HIJACK TOO

[starspangledhero]

✗ DEATH AND DYING. Can countries die for a short time, or can they still walk around with a bullet in their head? Does it depend on the country? The historical context? Just how indestructible are they? My opinions are here /too lazy to repost

✗ SEX. There's been a lot of talk of it lately, but it's mostly been for the lulz. Any actual opinions on it? Obviously many countries don't have much problem with homosexuality among nations, but what about humans? Do you think humans in Hetalia are like "oh, France fucking the new recruits again, call me when he's done." Headcanon stories about love/sex? EMBARRASSING FACTS? Yes I'm looking at you England.

✗ HUMANS IN HETALIA. There's that one "lost strip" of a random soldier talking to France, and France responds with "don't you recognize your own country?" What do you guys think about people in Hetalia? Would they know who the countries are? Is it specific to only those who actually interact with the countries? Do they just not give a shit and accept it as reality?

✗ BEFORE "COUNTRIES." Actually I was just thinking the other day; would the countries know exactly what they are when they're first starting out? Or would they presume themselves to be something else, like pagan gods and whatnot? What would the humans think, would that an influence on how they viewed themselves?

[starspangledhero]

ALSO I JUST REALIZED THAT AMERICA IS DRINKING BUDDIES WITH THE PERSONIFICATION OF DEATH.

THIS HAS LITTLE RELEVANCE OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT AMERICA IS AWESOME.

[cccpfuckyeah.livejournal.com]

OBVIOUSLY IT IS BECAUSE AMERICA IS JESUS

Well America was all 'sup gais I live here' when he was wee petite babby so idk. I like thinking that citizens recognize their countries but can't always place them.

I NEED TO TALK TO A FRANCE BECAUSE I honestly have no idea if one would actually molest Canada (probably yes) and head canon, I figured France 'used' Canada however he saw fit until he got bored with him and exchanged him. He's playing a victim, regardless, and won't talk about it.

And I am a horrible person.

I know Russia's people know who he is, then again he slaughters them on a case by case basis so who the fuck knows.

[a-thousandyears.livejournal.com]

I know most Frances play it that France was/is actually quite fond of Canada, the molesting thing seems to change depending on the shipping preference, but I personally think he would have held off until Canada hit puberty at least? And by then he was England's. He seems to have waited until Italy was older, while still quite shota and so on.

[starspangledhero]

in my head, like wayyyy back in the day, people used to think Russia was a god or one of those classic Russian heroes

and then someone burned down Moscow and people eventually figured it out

America wouldn't have much time to doubt himself anyway, if he ever did, since Finland and Sweden were like "he's miles away from a town OH MY GOD HE'S ONE OF US."

[mygodmyright.livejournal.com]

I think Canada was traded for some failing sugar islands? I know France had to give up Canada after the French & Indian war, but I'm also 80% sure he got traded for sugar islands ( forgot which ), which was a big wtf move since people wondered what the heck was actually IN Canada. I'm of the opinion France was somewhat fond of Canada, but wasn't SUPER fond since fur wasn't a real big money maker after a while.

I guess like HK said, it depends on shipping prefs.

[starspangledhero]

WITH SOME SLIGHT RELEVANCE:

I think it also has to do with countries-as-people thing and just very generalized history? Since I'm pretty sure America was one of the less important colonies to the British Empire and, aside from the Loyalists, America didn't think about the homeland too much. Of course that isn't the case with Hetalia. Except in my mind America was a little Loyalist while he was tiny and had such attachment issues.

GO FIGHT WIN

[kongeriget]

DEATH AND DYING
To be honest, I can never really decide. I think it's theoretically possible, but it would have to be under a) a political event and b) really important. Maybe they have some sort of luck thing - maybe a gunshot to the head would take them out for a little bit, I don't know, but I don't think they can actually DIE die unless it was political. I think that Denmark came extremely close in the 19th century, after S-H, which coincides with a huge national depression and the loss of all his good land in 50 years, but... IDK.

SEX
I HAVE PUT THOUGHT INTO THIS. I think that Denmark thinks that homosexuality is fine for nations, but sort of weird for humans. He's a Christian, he's from the 40s, he... just doesn't think it's exactly right. And he doesn't think he's being hypocritical, because he doesn't think humans and nations are the same thing at all; "God never said anything about us," or something. So yeah, it's kind of icky to him. That said, I think to him, sex... really isn't a big deal? Not in the way of France. But he's old and has sort of gotten it out of his system. He's had over a thousand years to do it, it's still fun, but he realizes he's good looking and awesome and going to live forever and just doesn't care all that much -- except he's a troll, and he DOES think it's funny that to some countries it still is a big-ish deal. When he was younger, he believed in the whole sex is only for marriage thing, which is one of the reasons he started calling his unification with Norway a marriage once they slept together ffffff. SO NO, HE HASN'T SLEPT AROUND AS MUCH AS HE LIKES TO IMPLY. A few flings before and after his marriage, his "marriage," and that's it.

HUMANS
I think that Denmark, most of the time, passes as a human. He lives in a normal town, goes to a normal store, etc. He interacts with humans, but he's probably a little reclusive -- hm. Very friendly and interested -- they're his people, after all! -- but a lot less of that "I'm so awesome let me tell you about it/myself." I don't think everyone knows he's Denmark, but I don't think it's some huge, gigantic secret. If it comes up, it comes up, and of course the various people in his government/royal family know. As for acceptance -- I think that his royal family, the people he's sort of "closest" to, accept it (probably because he's been visiting them since they were kids, and their parents were kids, etc), and people who have been in government for a while accept it, and it's probable that Danish people feel a sort of draw to him? Maybe not knowing that he IS Denmark, but a sort of feeling of familiarity and "do I know you" and friendliness.

BEFORE COUNTRIES OKAY I HAVE SO MUCH HEADCANON FOR THIS. I think that Denmark always knew he was SOMETHING connected to his people and this certain patch of land, and then other bits of land, and so on. I don't think he knew he was a country, because what are countries in the 5th century, but he knew he was SOMETHING. And his people probably did think he was a God, and he probably went with it, because lol polytheism and the incredible not aging child. And then when people started -- "hey, I'm the king now," hey, I'm in charge, etc, it sort of clicked like OH, THIS.

Re: GO FIGHT WIN

[starspangledhero]

MY INPUT: The thing with America's "sexual revolution" deal is it's not really about the awesomeness of sex, it's about breaking standard norms to work towards less constrictive views on gender and sexuality. Granted, he's had so many drugs in his system this past decade that everything he spews is hippie jargon, but that's his rationality. Really, when it comes to himself, he doesn't think about sex that much. He probably jacks off when he's bored but he's not out chasing skirts like nobody's business. If someone wants to have sex with him? Awesome, he'll just roll with it. He's too oblivious to ever approach anyone and attempt to sleep with them.

As for love, that's a whole different story.

Also agreeing on the humans part. I feel like if anyone saw America on the street you wouldn't be surprised because he's so fucking American. And since he spends a lot of his time in New York, oddities like talking countries is like. Nothing. I doubt he really hides it but he doesn't scream it from the highest mountain. When he's among people in his country, he's just another American going to a football game. He doesn't extend his superiority complex to his people, just to other countries.

FUCK YOU LJ I WASN'T DONE

is it bad that I think people drowned babbymerica for being a witch, and then eventually they were like "OH SHIT WHOOPS. MY BAD."

[kongeriget]

Ahahaha yeah, I think it's like. They're old enough that the novelty of sex has kind of worn off? It's still fun, but it's not a huge priority, unless you're France, and it's just. Yeah. I think that Denmark with Norway probably does have a fairly active sex life, but then he can go 10 years without without caring all that much. Other things to do! He just likes to talk about it lately because everyone just reacts so strongly to it DON'T FEED THE TROLL, GUYS.

And yeah love is just. Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaa wow.

And yeah, I definitely think there's a sort of -- not just the countries feeding off their people's emotions and thoughts, but a little bit of it going back. Maybe people go "oh, what?", but then they just accept it because it's weird but it makes sense. So yeah, sort of an open secret. I don't know if they'd know of other country's personifications, other than guessing they exist, and I doubt that everyone in Denmark knows Denmark or even knows of him, but I don't think it's some massive secret. He'd probably introduce himself by a human name, though, and only be all "yeah, I'm Denmark" if it was relevant. Like you said: Denmark's at ease with his people, so he doesn't feel the need to brag and be superior, since he's ... bragging to his people, who already know, because they're him!

/DOUBLE HIJACK

[ignoredbaltic.livejournal.com]

Okay uh derpderp we already had the death convo and uhhh I'LL ADDRESS THE ONES I HAVEN'T YET

HUMANS. My personal thinking is it seems like people don't give too much of a shit and just accept it like "oh, cool, we have personifications, that's pretty awesome." I think regular people would see the countries in the same position you'd see a leader or president- you know of them, but you don't know them, unless you would directly interact with them or whatever. Tl;dr, I'm pretty sure they know and it's probably quite a public thing that people are just... used to.

BEFORE "COUNTRIES". OKAY HEADCANON TIEM I'm kind of thinking that like, ancient god religion/legends and stuff were based slightly off of themselves, after something rediculous happened and they realized they probably weren't human (like dying and not staying dead, or waking up later during a ceremonial burial in tribal times or something and having people worship them like gods). I think that's partly the reason some countries see themselves as a little higher-and-mightier than people: for instance, America sees himself as totally bamf because he got a couple thousand years to hang with the indians and be praised. On the other hand, England kind of knew right off the bat from being involved with other countries, so he has less of an opinion of himself over normal people.

god i never realized how much i could write on personal headcanon, orz

Re: /DOUBLE HIJACK

[starspangledhero]

YESSSS GODS AND MISUNDERSTANDINGS I LOVE IT ALL

America seems to have known what he was very early on, but again, the other countries arriving and talking to him had a lot to do with it. and then the humans drowned him for being a witch.

Also from my standpoint, America's superiority complex is little less... prevalent? when it comes to his own people. They help make him who he is and he respects them. Americans are basically the only group of people he won't act condescending to. But he's still superior, of course, but it's not the human's fault. They can't help they die so easily :(

[a-thousandyears.livejournal.com]

With the sex thing! Hong Kong thinks homosexuality is gross, but he's much more accepting of it among nations because they're not human after all- and technically they're as much women as they are men. My other Hetalia muses that have nothing to do with Discedo but I still end up using for head canon are much more open minded, because that's their society, but they still view nations as different than humans. Different rules, different sex lives, etc. Hong Kong really is a virgin, because he can't bring himself to get close enough to a human to have a relationship and he's not the type for one night stands. So yeah.

Humans! I think that most of the population know countries exist, but they don't know them personally. Obviously bosses and important figures know, but not everyone. I like the idea of humans feeling instinctively close to their nations when they see them, without quite knowing who they are.

Before countries! Hong Kong knew all his life because China told him, but I think countries that were more isolated wouldn't have? Like, they knew they were different because they weren't aging but they weren't sure why. America mentioned something about "realising" things about himself in the chibi strips, right? That was probably him realising who England, Finland and France were and that they were the same as him. Or maybe even just realising not what they were, but that they were the same as him and that he wasn't just this one weird anomaly.

[starspangledhero]

I'm digging this "instinctive knowledge" business. idk how/if it would work in Discedo but since like, every single American he's come across accepts him as a country IT HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM THUSFAR.

With the America realization thing, I think it's mostly what you said: he figured out that they were the same thing, and though he didn't understand right off the bad what that was, he figured out that it had something to do with the others like him. Plus he seemed super calm after this epiphany so he was probably like "YAYYYYY I'M NOT A FREAK."

[kongeriget]

Well, also in Discedo, they don't have the connection. Even without the chip, they're not getting the connection - so if you think about it like that, the instinct wouldn't "apply" here. Like the wires are just cut? I know Denmark at least has mentioned it once IC (he was... complaining at Lucrecia I think) and does assume the connection will resume if he gets his chip out.

[a-thousandyears.livejournal.com]

Well, Americans in Discedo aren't the same as the Americans America is made of, so it technically makes sense.

And they're trying to adopt him into their freaky families and bribing him with food and everyone loves him and it's like a dream come true.

[mygodmyright.livejournal.com]

For me, Sex headcanon is that every blue moon when England does get rip roaring drunk and bring someone home, his brothers walk in and ruin everything.

As for homosexuality, I think England was... a bit more liberal on the subject than other countries were in the 60s? I did a bit of fact digging a while back, but it's been so long I've kind of forgotten derp.

[starspangledhero]

England, you don't need any help ruining sex.

[mygodmyright.livejournal.com]

Whatever he lacks, he makes up by having an awesome personality. Really.

/TRIPLE HIJACK

[yourfaceisscary.livejournal.com]

Death - For the physical stuff, I always saw it as they would heal quickly (so like they wouldn't bleed to death or something, and they would be ready to fight the next day) or for the big stuff there would be some sort of divine intervention (that headshot actually just barely grazed the skull, if they're drowning then a huge wave throws them up on shore, etc.) so that they just couldn't die.

Love/Sex - I always figured that the countries would have control over it on an individual level. Like, as long as they did all of their other duties as a nation, they could love whoever they wanted and have sex with whoever they wanted. For Finland, I figured he actually has feelings for Sweden (and a tiny bit for Estonia, but that's hidden under BFF4LIFE stuff) as well as a few crushes on some of his own people in the past, and during times where he had prolonged exposure to his people (like during long wars, or in the 1917 and beyond time for a few years while he was setting up his own nation stuff) he would have a wife or a girlfriend or whatever to 'blend in' with his people. This also goes with the "humans in Hetalia" part: I always thought the nations would keep their identity as a nation secret from the general public and use their human names then, but their high-ranking officials would know.

Before "Countries" - For Finland, I play it as though his memories are really foggy before he met Sweden. Like he knows he was around, and he can remember knowing he was different from his people, but he doesn't remember at what point he realized that.

Re: /TRIPLE HIJACK

[starspangledhero]

Yeah, I think a lot of the time the deadly stuff is that "wow I was lucky" stuff, but like certain historical events would call for a sort-of death? Like in exceptionally bloody times that would cause huge changes in nations, like the French Revolution and American Civil War.

Now I'm just picturing Finland with a little wifey awwwwwwwwww.

And yeah, that's how I play America too. He's said that he can't remember much before 1620 which partly plays into the Roanoke colony.

...tl;dr, it's what's for breakfast.

[zweiplusvier.livejournal.com]

✗ DEATH AND DYING. I think a lot about this one, and I think it really depends. Because we have the example of Rome "dying" but showing up to randomly talk to Italy / harass Germany on one occasion - so it has precedent. But then we have Poland, the little country that could. Who kept. Coming. Back. So it really turns out as a logical...dilemma. Why did Germania and Rome die, but not Poland? Because we know, historically, that Poland is a country today? I have a lot of headcanon about Poland staying with Russia and such, and there was definitely still Polish nationalism so I suppose maybe it has a lot to do with the citizens. I mean Poland wasn't a country, but you still have many polish nationalists whereas Romans more or less disappeared? But that doesn't really explain Germania at all. But it is a kind of popular fan theory to kill of Prussia, for the same general reasons I guess as Rome and Germania are gone. There is no Prussia today, and everything. But how do we know that some weird thing won't happen and suddenly: PRUSSIA! I mean, it happened with Poland, didn't it? I would say the defining line goes back to nationalism. I mean probably there are people in Kaliningrad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad) who think, gee, this would be cool to be Prussia again but I think the fierce kinds of nationalism that surrounded Prussia are gone - and have been gone - since after World War II. Although Prussia canonically becomes East Germany I don't know that it would really mean that he'd still be around today. I tend to be optimistic, it's just another union, something we've touched on already, so he can still be around. But maybe he really does die like Rome and Germania.

So, basically, they can die, but only if basically all their people - and their people's desire to have said country - are gone. Although really there are a lot of inconsistencies in canon.

✗ SEX. Okay. This is. kind of a complex question because I have a lot of head canon about this, especially lately. Well, for Germany. You other countries can do you thing. But it's story time.

Once upon a time in 1890 a play was written, although it wouldn't be performed until 1906 in Berlin. Now, Germany at this time...was kind of young. The Holy Roman Empire dissolved after the 30 Years War in 1806, which is kind of where my head canon for Germany starts. I tend to think of it as they're the same person, but he doesn't really remember just kind of woke up in the forest oh hi France but more on that in the last question, since it's a big part of headcanon for Germany really. Anyway the play was called Frühlings Erwachen. It deals with some very sexual things and was banned a bunch of times but later made into an American Musical by the same name, Spring Awakening. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Awakening) Canonically, we have the example of the Valentine's Day comic with Germany really talking about his lack of experience, and there is mention of his reading of books to really understand that. I don't think he really learned anything from Prussia - they're brothers, but they don't talk about that stuff. Otherwise he wouldn't have had that conversation with Austria. And in that same comic there is that "oh shit Italy is a guy" kind of moment so I don't think he really thinks of it in terms of homosexuality/heterosexuality w/e because they're nations and that's just. different I suppose, for them? Getting back to Spring Awakening since I've gotten super off track from where I started. I imagine he saw it and was just like what.

okay here's more

[zweiplusvier.livejournal.com]

Also there's homosexuality in that I think that's why I brought it up I can't really remember anymore expect that i wanted to reference it, really. But I imagine he saw it and then mentioned it to Prussia but didn't really talk about it because of society then and everything. Okay then we hit ~1920s~ and Wiemar and lol Berlin in the 1920s (Cabaret, anyone?). 1920s Berlin was super risqué, but I think that was more of a human-thing. I think Germany probably was...interested (not really the shade of meaning I want but we'll go with that) and went to cabarets but still didn't really. get it? Anyway I think sex with humans is a big no no as far as countries go, but Germany is just super awkward about everything.

Now wrapping up what I have to say about this, I'm going back to the homosexuality thing. Canonically, Germany is pretty gay. He has that weird thing for Italy. This is not a surprise. Berlin is one of the gayest cities in the world, present day. BUT. Homosexuality was definitely not okay in the timeline I have him from. There were gay nazis, (and in cases like Röhm they got killed., although that was kind of a cover) but homosexuality was something you did not do. Just sometimes they just of, uh, pushed it under the table if they needed you around. And then blackmailed you. And then used it as an excuse if you had to be killed. And gays got sent to concentrations camps. So even though with Austria on Valentine's day his big thing is more about oh god Italy is a guy but doesn't quite get to the -- ohshit that means I'm gay, I think he definitely had some kind of existentialist crisis over that. Probably it got concluded with "well we're countries, it's different." but the ideology of the time was stringently anti-homosexual, so it would definitely be a point of considerable unsure-ity. Like "I'm not sure if I should be this because, gosh, that is not going over well for humans."

✗ HUMANS IN HETALIA. - Hm, I have a couple theories on this. One of them is that people just...know. Kind of an uncanny feeling, I guess. Because otherwise who would believe them?

On the other hand, maybe in hetalia verse people just know their country exists, the way I know there is a pope, but wouldn't necessarily recognize him if he was walking down the street. I mean, I would definitely be able to recognize the Pope without his Pope-Gear on, but if someone said, "Hey Rema this is the Pope, he's the leader of the Catholic Church" I'd be like, "Oh cool, 'sup Mister Pope?" So I tend to go with that, where they know they exist but maybe if they are from rural areas they wouldn't really know. We do see canon examples of people interacting with the countries, like when the humans were like:




Not only does this gathered group of what appears to be soldiers know Germany, they also know drinking habits. (Incidentally, a new study shows that the pope is catholic. (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,5444002,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf)) So people definitely know him - but that would make sense, soldiers knowing him - again. Pope theory.

✗ BEFORE "COUNTRIES." Ah okay so my headcanon for Germany is that he is the HRE but he woke up with like amnesia ~in the middle of the forest~ after HRE got their asses kicked by Napoleon. Afterall, in the Valentine's Day comic there's that bit where we see Chibitalia as ~if in a memory~ in the very end. But I don't think he remembers. At all. It's just a new start. Same tiny blond boy, growing up in Franch's house. (Kind of scary when you think about it.) I think he probably just...sort of knew and was sort of told by France? "Ma petite Confédération du Rhin~" (okay I never know what gender to do the stuff in the confederation is feminine in French, orz) kind of thing and was never like "Hey sup you're a country" but it came out in context.

oh, lj.

[zweiplusvier.livejournal.com]

Maybe a heart to heart about how France is the awesome protector of your lands aren't you happy. I don't know that countries would recognize one another like "Oh hi you're Prussia. I know it." They may sort of be able to tell that person is a country but not super well. Just kind of ...oh maybe they're a country. But not like "OH YOU ARE PRUSSIA NICE TO MEET YOU."

A bishop can meet another bishop but without bishop-gear they may not know they're both bishops unless they say it. (idk why I have so many catholic metaphors today. I just do.)


IN CONCLUSION I WRITE A LOT.

Errata

[zweiplusvier.livejournal.com]

...Oh wait, that should say definitely not be able to recognize the pope without his pope-gear.

...I think the jist came out of that anyway.